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Di, 19 Desember 2000 22:03  |
Paul Williams
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What is:
"n'Bek soos dit kort net jam"
in English ?
My own translation makes no sense ...
kort = short / briefly
net = just / only / exact / neat / tidy
jam = I have no idea, think it might be related to the word "sorry"
*sigh* I guess I need to practice harder
Thanking you in advance,
Paul
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| Re: yet another translation [boodskap #37925 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #37924] |
Wo, 20 Desember 2000 06:42  |
DARKANGEL
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> What is:
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> "n'Bek soos dit kort net jam"
When someone says something that you agree with or like you can say "'n Bek
soos dit kort net jam."
'n Bek = A mouth
soos = like
dit = that
kort = needs
net = only
jam = jam (Something sweet made of fruit and sugar to spread on breads or to
eat with a teaspoon)
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| Re: yet another translation [boodskap #37927 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #37925] |
Wo, 20 Desember 2000 14:48 |
Paul Williams
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So what you are saying is that "n'Bek soos dit kort net jam" is an
Afrikaaner saying ? No wonder I was struggling to make sense of it ! Thanks
a lot, guys.
Incidentally, my dictionary gives the translation of "jam" as "konfyt" or
"gedrang".
Paul
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>> What is:
>> "n'Bek soos dit kort net jam"
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> When someone says something that you agree with or like you can say "'n Bek
> soos dit kort net jam."
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> 'n Bek = A mouth
> soos = like
> dit = that
> kort = needs
> net = only
> jam = jam (Something sweet made of fruit and sugar to spread on breads or to
> eat with a teaspoon)
>
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| Re: yet another translation [boodskap #37928 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #37927] |
Wo, 20 Desember 2000 15:25 |
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Paul Williams wrote:
> So what you are saying is that "n'Bek soos dit kort net jam" is an
> Afrikaaner saying ? No wonder I was struggling to make sense of it ! Thanks
> a lot, guys.
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> Incidentally, my dictionary gives the translation of "jam" as "konfyt" or
> "gedrang".
>
The word "jam" is of course the English word for the Afrikaans
word "konfyt." (or, in the case of a "traffic jam," I guess one
could use the word "gedrang," but you probably will hear
"verkeersophoping" rather than "verkeersgedrang.")
The expression " 'n Bek soos dit kort net jam" is of course
a totally slang expression and would not be used in proper
Afrikaans. The word "bek" is a pejorative expression for the
word "mond" (mouth), unless it is used for an animal.
Note that you spell " 'n bek" with the apostrophe in front
of the -n- instead of following it. It is because 'n was
originally "een" in Dutch, but was shortened to 'n in
Afrikaans.
Leer jy Afrikaans?
Gloudina
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| Re: yet another translation [boodskap #37930 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #37924] |
Wo, 20 Desember 2000 15:53 |
Paul Williams
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Gloudina,
I am learning Afrikaans, but sadly it is all self taught, as no one speaks
it here except for ex-pat S.Africans. I have a friend in S.A. and she sends
me occasionally cryptic messages in Afrikaans which I struggle to understand
... so I have read a few books and can read a little Afrikaans now. Slang
completely throws me, of course, hence my confusion. My main problem really
is pronunciation, because do not have the opportunity to hear spoken
Afrikaans.
BTW, My dictionary does not say "bek" is pejorative, merely an alternative
to "mond"
Thanks
Paul
> The word "jam" is of course the English word for the Afrikaans
> word "konfyt." (or, in the case of a "traffic jam," I guess one
> could use the word "gedrang," but you probably will hear
> "verkeersophoping" rather than "verkeersgedrang.")
> The expression " 'n Bek soos dit kort net jam" is of course
> a totally slang expression and would not be used in proper
> Afrikaans. The word "bek" is a pejorative expression for the
> word "mond" (mouth), unless it is used for an animal.
> Note that you spell " 'n bek" with the apostrophe in front
> of the -n- instead of following it. It is because 'n was
> originally "een" in Dutch, but was shortened to 'n in
> Afrikaans.
> Leer jy Afrikaans?
>
> Gloudina
>
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| Re: yet another translation [boodskap #37932 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #37930] |
Wo, 20 Desember 2000 17:05 |
Magnificent Mel
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"Paul Williams" skryf in boodskap news:B6668674.7048%paul.williams49@virgin.net...
> My main problem really
> is pronunciation, because do not have the opportunity to hear spoken
> Afrikaans.
Post a telephone number here...
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talking...
So Paul, if you post your tel number here, maybe I will phone you and speak
some Afrikaans to you... I am an English speaker, but I can also speak good
Afrikaans....
[ Despite what I said before.... I love all you lovely people here... :-) ]
--
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| Re: yet another translation [boodskap #37934 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #37924] |
Wo, 20 Desember 2000 17:39 |
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Paul Williams wrote:
> Gloudina,
>
> I am learning Afrikaans, but sadly it is all self taught, as no one speaks
> it here except for ex-pat S.Africans. I have a friend in S.A. and she sends
> me occasionally cryptic messages in Afrikaans which I struggle to understand
> ... so I have read a few books and can read a little Afrikaans now. Slang
> completely throws me, of course, hence my confusion. My main problem really
> is pronunciation, because do not have the opportunity to hear spoken
> Afrikaans.
>
> BTW, My dictionary does not say "bek" is pejorative, merely an alternative
> to "mond"
>
Well, just be careful when you use the word "bek" as an alternative
to "mond." I assume you know the common Afrikaans expression
"Hou jou bek" for "Shut up."
Why don't you write in simple Afrikaans, and give us permission
to correct you. That way we can turn this newsgroup into something
useful.
Waar bly jy in Engeland?
Gloudina
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| Re: yet another translation [boodskap #37936 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #37924] |
Wo, 20 Desember 2000 19:05 |
Paul Williams
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> Well, just be careful when you use the word "bek" as an alternative
> to "mond." I assume you know the common Afrikaans expression
> "Hou jou bek" for "Shut up."
No, I did not know that. I do now...
> Why don't you write in simple Afrikaans, and give us permission
> to correct you. That way we can turn this newsgroup into something
> useful.
>
Seems like a good idea to me :)
> Waar bly jy in Engeland?
Ek is in London.
Paul
> Gloudina
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| Re: yet another translation [boodskap #37946 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #37924] |
Do, 21 Desember 2000 14:43 |
Paul Williams
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in article 3A417CBF...@home.com, @home.com at @home.com wrote on
21/12/00 3:43 am:
> Waar bly jy, noord of suid van die rivier?
>
> Gloudina
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Noord, in Weste London.
Paul
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| Re: yet another translation [boodskap #37956 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #37924] |
Do, 21 Desember 2000 19:16 |
Paul Williams
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>> Ek bly in Notting Hill met Hugh Grant.
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> Hallo Spike! :-)
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Hallo Danielle! Naturally, I don't literally live *with* that
pigeon-chested, stuttering fop, but I am only a 10 min walk away from the
street market shown in the movie (which, incidentally, Americans do not
believe really exists). And besides, my personal habits are nowhere near as
disgusting as the aforementioned Spike LOL
Paul
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| Re: yet another translation [boodskap #37958 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #37924] |
Vr, 22 Desember 2000 00:49 |
poppie
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Ek was verlede jaar met Nuwe Jaar in London, en het n draai
in Notting Hill gegooi. Die strate is vol toeriste op soek na Hugh Grant,
en die straatventers (street vendors) is almal van ander lande, meesal
Portugal dink ek. Die plek het n lekker vibe . . . klein dorpie
gevoel in n groot stad . . . baie mooi ou semi-detached huisies met
interessante tuintjies, maar ook baie seedy huise wat lyk of hulle
rooi ligte by die voordeur sal hang, Walle styl. Nogtans n plek
waar ek nogal sou wou woon.
-p-
skryf in boodskap news:3A42849F.5A343D66@home.com...
Paul Williams wrote:
>> Jy sê jy bly in Wes-London. Dis 'n groot area. Nabywatter voorstad?
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>> Gloudina
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> Ek bly in Notting Hill met Hugh Grant.
Wel, wel, wel.
Gloudina
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| Re: yet another translation [boodskap #37970 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #37958] |
Vr, 22 Desember 2000 17:02 |
Paul Williams
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> Ek was verlede jaar met Nuwe Jaar in London, en het n draai
> in Notting Hill gegooi. Die strate is vol toeriste op soek na Hugh Grant,
> en die straatventers (street vendors) is almal van ander lande, meesal
> Portugal dink ek. Die plek het n lekker vibe . . . klein dorpie
> gevoel in n groot stad . . . baie mooi ou semi-detached huisies met
> interessante tuintjies, maar ook baie seedy huise wat lyk of hulle
> rooi ligte by die voordeur sal hang, Walle styl. Nogtans n plek
> waar ek nogal sou wou woon.
OK .. here is my Translation For The Day :
"I was in London last year at the New Year, and ?? turn in Notting Hill ???.
The streets are full of tourists looking for Hugh Grant, and the street
vendors are all foreigners, usually from Portugal I think. The place has a
sweet (nice?) vibe ... a small village feeling in a big city ... very nice
semi detached houses with interesting little gardens, yet also very seedy
houses what look like they should have red lights hanging by the front door
(!!), ?Walle? style. Nevertheless a place where I'd like to live."
How'd I do guys ?
For your information, the shitty area of Notting Hill is *NOT* filled with
brothels. They are crack-houses, OK ?
Paul
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| Re: yet another translation [boodskap #37972 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #37924] |
Vr, 22 Desember 2000 20:25 |
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Paul Williams wrote:
>> , en het n draai
>> in Notting Hill gegooi.
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> and ?? turn in Notting Hill ???.
draaigooi, om 'n draai te gooi = to visit briefly
(draai = turn. Om die draai = around the bend
Ek draai om = I turn around
Ek het omgedraai
Ek sal omdraai
Ek gooi 'n draai
Ek het 'n draai gegooi
Ek sal 'n draai gooi
Ek sou 'n draai gooi
Ek wou 'n draai gooi
Gloudina
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Paul Williams wrote:
>> seedy huise wat lyk of hulle
>> rooi ligte by die voordeur sal hang, Walle styl.
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> (!!), ?Walle? style.
Sy verwys na die Walletjies, 'n rooi-lig distrikin Amsterdam.
Gloudina
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| Re: yet another translation [boodskap #37976 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #37924] |
Vr, 22 Desember 2000 21:16 |
Paul Williams
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> draaigooi, om 'n draai te gooi = to visit briefly
> (draai = turn. Om die draai = around the bend
> Ek draai om = I turn around
> Ek het omgedraai
> Ek sal omdraai
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> Ek gooi 'n draai
> Ek het 'n draai gegooi
> Ek sal 'n draai gooi
> Ek sou 'n draai gooi
> Ek wou 'n draai gooi
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> Gloudina
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Ah .... the word "gooi" is defined as to "throw, cast, fling" by my book. No
wonder I was confused.
Paul
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| Re: yet another translation [boodskap #37979 is 'n antwoord op boodskap #37924] |
Sa, 23 Desember 2000 02:08 |
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Gloudina, ek stel jou amptelik aan as my persoonlike vertaler, jou Afrikaans
is baie beter as myne, en ek dink jy woon net n dekade of so langer in
Kanada
as wat ek hier in die V.S.A. woon. Wel gedaan.
pop
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> Paul Williams wrote:
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>>> seedy huise wat lyk of hulle
>>> rooi ligte by die voordeur sal hang, Walle styl.
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>> (!!), ?Walle? style.
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> Sy verwys na die Walletjies, 'n rooi-lig distrikin Amsterdam.
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> Gloudina
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Sa, 23 Desember 2000 02:12 |
poppie
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Ek ken Savannah goed, dit word vrekwarm in die somer, en oorlaai van
toeriste . . .
dis beter om in die laatsomer te gaan, na die skole eers begin het. Die
boek was
weer eens beter as die movie.
pop
Danielle skryf in boodskap news:0ub74t41cnm5urvsdmp1aj3th3om9gvroc@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 21 Dec 2000 19:16:08 +0000, Paul Williams
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> Savannah, 'n klein dorpie in Georgia, in die Suide van Amerika, het
> ook baie toerisme aangetrek nadat 'n fliek in 1997 gemaak is van 'n
> gewilde boek, Midnight In the Garden Of Good and Evil. Dit is 'n
> geweldige interessante boek, wat pragtig die gewoontes en styl van die
> "Southerner's" uitbeeld. Well worth reading IMHO.
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